Committing to Stoicism doesn't mean you have to stop relying on wisdom from other sources. In the first 29 of his letters, Seneca signs off with a few lines pondering a quote by some other thinker, most often choosing Epicurus, the founder of one of Stoicism's main rivals. I found it a little strange at first, and then very charming, but it didn't really click for me why he did this until this week. It reminded of these passages.
From letter 2:
"The thought for to-day is one which I discovered in Epicurus; for I am won't to cross over even into the enemy's camp, – not as a deserter, but as a scout."
And from letter 12:
"'Epicurus,' you reply, 'uttered these words; what are you doing with another's property?' Any truth, I maintain, is my own property. And I shall continue to heap quotations from Epicurus upon you, so that all persons who swear by the words of another, and put a value upon the speaker and not upon the thing spoken, may understand that the best ideas are common property."
At almost every meetup this year people have brought up comparisons between Stoicism and the other philosophies of life that they have experience with. It's become one of my favorite parts of the discussions. It's fascinating to learn about the overlap and contrast between these different systems. An idea gains more credibility when it's independently discovered by people in different places, using different methods, and that seems true of some of the core tenets of Stoicism.
I think this must be a common thing that happens when people get together to practice Stoicism, even back in Seneca's day. The trick is commit to virtue in the way advised by the Stoics, but not so rigidly that you miss out on anything useful from other schools of thought. In our struggle against fortune, we need every weapon we can get. I think that's what Seneca's getting at.
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Join us this Sunday, December 29th for the forty-sixth Sunday Stoa!
We'll kick things off at 4pm EST with 10 minutes of guided meditation, followed by 15 minutes of reflection journaling or doing a Stoic writing practice. If you'd like to skip the meditation and journaling, please join us at 4:30pm. After that, we'll use a combination of break out groups and larger group discussion to go deeper into a specific topic.
This weeks theme is progress: we'll be listening to Letter 32 from Seneca's Letters from a Stoic, and Book 1, Chapter 4 of the Discourses of Epictetus, and then discussing the ideas they puts forth.
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https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Moral_letters_to_Lucilius/Letter_32
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Join us this Sunday, December 22nd for the forty-fifth Sunday Stoa!
We'll kick things off at 4pm EST with 10 minutes of guided meditation, followed by 15 minutes of reflection journaling or doing a Stoic writing practice. If you'd like to skip the meditation and journaling, please join us at 4:30pm. After that, we'll use a combination of break out groups and larger group discussion to go deeper into a specific topic.
This week, we'll be listening to Letter 18 from Seneca's Letters from a Stoic, On Festivals and Fasting, and then discussing the ideas it puts forth.
Here's the video and text if you want to check it out before Sunday:
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Moral_letters_to_Lucilius/Letter_18
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